| KEN'S
DX DIARY AND LOGS - WEDNESDAY 26th JANUARY 2011 |
PERSEUS RELEASE VERSION 4.0A:
Well
the Perseus board has been buzzing since the weekend about the new
release of the Perseus software. What is it all about? Well the much
anticipated www button has finally came to being. And it is far more
interesting and "cool" than had ever dared imagine!!!!
What
is the www button?? Well initially I was under the impression that
it was primarily to allow dxers who live in the city, to site their
Perseus at their friends farm, or at their holiday home etc. Since
I had no holiday home, and am able to run long antennas through the
woods at the back of me, I had no real interest. BUT....BUT....
When
the software was released, mayhem occurred on the Perseus Yahoo board.
At that stage I had a go at the software and checked it did all the
MW dxing stuff OK, and made sure there were no new navigation buttons
to navigate through recorded files. There wasn't. Same as vs 3.01b
then??? Not quite....
So after
the weekend was all over, and I began reading the Perseus reporters
about listening to other guys receivers, I thought I would give it
a try. No easy task as it turned out, but only for the reason that
the Perseus sits beside my main PC which is never on line. To lead
a longer USB cable over to the web PC might have been a 5 minute job
I had wrongly assumed. Ha!!! Wrong again.
I had
a USB extension cable, which worked perfectly OK with the Perseus.
But it was not long enough to go to the other PC, only a few feet
across the shack. No problem. It was a short distance, so I whacked
the lead I had, and joined up the 5 wires (4 and screen) with old
phone cable I had lying around. No results. Odd I thought. Its cheap
crap thin wire in the USB lead itself, so I thought I'd try thick
twin and earth mains wire. No results again!!! I have read the USB
cable lengths etc on line, but in all honesty I never expected the
results I achieved. I resoldered the original lead back together and
it worked perfect. So after this marathon, I am now tripping over
a cable on a temporary basis to plug the Perseus into the web PC.
ANYWAY.
After that, I tried to connect to some of the remote receivers that
were up and running, which I did so with surprising ease. WAH I thought.
This HAS the potential of being a superb DX tool. Imagine hearing
a station ID in a weak signal condition and you want to compare to
the web stream. Too often you can't stream North American MW stations.
The stupid copyright screen about listening outside the States comes
up with many stations. So like using remote tuners to check ID's,
you can now have the additional use of a worldwide network of Perseus
receivers. Yes. That certainly is a benefit!!
Lucky
for me, I never had to alter anything on the modem etc. Everything
went pretty much to plan!!
I use
ZONE ALARM as a firewall, which has a box ticked about hiding my ip
when appropriate. That seemed to cause problems when other dxers tried
to access my receiver. When I unticked that box, dxers seemed to be
able to log into my receiver immediately.
This
release is a 100% freebie. At the last minute Nico announced that
this release was a free update, and not the planned pay for plug in
type release. I think NICO has made a good choice for himself here.
Now he has no hassle of dxers that can't get the system to work, demanding
money back and being irate. Now being a freebie, it is either take
it or leave it!! Clever thinking I feel from Microtelecom.
So there
you go. I change from thinking "I have no real use for this www
button", to thinking "wah, what a powerful dx tool!!!"
All within a couple of hours!!! Well done to NICO for all the hard
coding work to make this available at the click of a button. But of
course I have already heard and seen the negativity from a few dxers.
Surprisingly I may add, as it's not difficult to see where benefits
are. A bit like the guys that think Perseus users are cheating or
have an unfair advantage over them in the first place. In fact we
are simply taking advantage of technology to assist in the mw dxing
hobby.
PERSEUS
SERVER NOT UPDATED YET:
I had
an anxious e mail from a dx friend who was concerned about a link
to the new software he had, but it was not seen on the Microtelecom
site. I think the yahoo group speaks for itself to say that it is
100% "safe". You don't need a crash helmet and yellow jacket
on to download it. And you don't need pretty pictures on a sales site
to try the latest release. I don't mind time being devoted to ironing
out problems as opposed to updating sites. There are plenty on text
files to read within the zip file anyway, as always.
USING
MY PERSEUS AS A SERVER - E MAIL ME AND SAY HELLO:
At the
moment there is no chat box attached to the software, and thus no
way of communicating with the dxer running the "server",
or the client on the server. There is also no way to see (or hear
for that matter) what the dxer tuning your server is doing, what frequency
and mode he is using etc. That would be a welcome addition although
it may not be possible??? So if anyone is using my server, send me
an e mail sometime with what you were listening to etc. Use the address
on the contact button on this site if possible. The yahoo address
is only for joining groups...
If I
am sharing the Perseus at any time, the chances are I will be on a
500m beverage, along with an RPA1 Preamp, and hence signal levels
are high. That's why the Perseus 10dB att is usually on, otherwise
I may have clipping... The antenna is terminated at the far end, and
has about 200m of coax running to meet the aerial itself.
REMEMBER:
Perseus sharing is a privilege, not a service. With the poor bandwidth
here in the country areas of Scotland, I can not guarantee that if
I happen to be downloading a file, or checking e mails, that it will
not make the stream from my server stuttery, or even cut it off. I
don't have city speed broadband here. But it seems to be adequate.
I also may wish to take control of the receiver myself and use it
especially at the top of the hour if TADX is coming in. If I disconnect
anyone coming up to a top of the hour, that will most likely be the
reason why. So in short, let me know how things are working etc, and
if you experience any lock ups, stutters etc....
Other
problems might be if AVG for example is updating. That slows the machine
a bit when the updates are happening. Or I may be uploading files
to this very web site!!!
PERSEUS
YAHOO GROUPS:
I have
seen complaints of too many e mails coming into the inbox because
of the upsurge of interest in the remote Perseus network. I personally
wouldn't dream of accepting e mails from these groups. I am happy
reading on line. I get enough in the inbox without adding to that
unnecessary clutter. The options are easily found in Yahoo.
MW
DX QUITE GOOD AT 0800 TUESDAY 25th JAN:
The band
was more than good to us at 0800 yesterday. There were some really
strong signals around from common stations like KMOX 1120, WBBM 780,
as well as regulars, but less common stations like 820 WBAP, 670 The
Score WSCR, and WSAU 550. Country music was mixing with 570 news,
which turned out to be more likely CFCB, which ided at 0835. This
is rather than the desired CKSW!! Davie H up the street reported a
good signal from less common WDCD on 1450 0300 on 24th. (It certainly
was). Also reasonable was KMA 960.
The unids
at 0800 - a FOX news station weak below WBEN (930 with CBS news).
There was also a station on 580, not the usual CFRA. This carried
ABC News. No matter what I did, I just couldn't pull the ID from the
rec. The only one I have heard there with ABC news is Traverse City
stn WTCM, heard pelting in one morning only. See rec below..
110125_0800_550_wsau_vg.mp3
110123_0800_570_wsyr_gd.mp3
110125_0800_820_wbap.mp3
110117_0800_960_weav_new_toth.mp3
110125_0800_960_kma.mp3
110125_0800_1120_kmox_booming.mp3
110124_0300_1540_wdcd_vg.mp3
100226_0700_580_wtcm_traverse_city_vg.mp3
(1,208k)
100226_0700_580_wtcm_traverse_city_id_only.mp3
| KEN'S
DX DIARY AND LOGS - FRIDAY 21th JANUARY 2011 |
XERF BOOMING IN
ON 1570:
This
morning had some strong signals, although not found anything too out
of the ordinary yet. But what a signal on XERF on 1570, the old Mexican
border blaster. The common station here is the Frenchie in Canada,
but XERF were so dominant, I have made two files. There is a long
5m or so file, and a shorter file a couple of minutes long with the
ids, and the start of the other programme that could be the cause
of unids in the future, or dread to think, wrong ids.
110121_0758_1570_xerf_superb_signal_inc_anthem.mp3 
110121_0758_1570_xerf_superb_signal_inc_anthem_short_vs.mp3
| KEN'S
DX DIARY AND LOGS - THURSDAY 20th JANUARY 2011 |
LATEST
UPDATES:
I have
not had a lot to boast about here in the last week. Had a particularly
massive WWKB signal at 0800 today,
but although strong, there wasn't much else in the way of dx, bar
what I term regulars. Of course regulars to me may be someone's dx
target. In the same way Martin up North would perhaps yawn at the
thought of a good strong signal from KJR 950, like I managed last
winter. This winter I can probably say I haven't ided it, or if I
have it was way down in the mud. CFAM and it's classical music has
only shown very few days. Yes, it's been a bit of a poor winter for
West Coast or Mid West, but there has still been odd days with more
unusual East Coast stations coming through. East Coast being a little
over enthusiastic with the description. Buffalo and Toronto tend to
be described as common East Coasters in the MW dx community.. many
hundreds of miles from the East Coast.. LOL
BEING
VAGUE ABOUT LOGS OF COMMON STATIONS:
Incidentally,
being vague about the KJR logs here is simply because I don't keep
much of a log. Only if a common station is booming or a rare station
is coming through, do I make any form of notes. As I type this I can't
even find the log book in the shack. It is buried below a load of
old publications that I am currently scanning. OK, found it and the
last entry is last Friday when the WZON 620 was coming through. I
heard the CW that Paul C heard the other morning on 1500, but even
that never made it to the log book. There is however a sound recording
dubbed off.
WTNI
BILOXI:
I was
searching for the current TOTH id from WTNI on 1640. As you can hear,
typical of many of these American stations, they don't like to have
their station name loud and proud. How they ever sell airtime I don't
know. Listen to the ID of WTNI being mumbled.
100915_0200_1640_wtni.mp3
The worst MUMBLED ID has to be WXYT Detroit 1270. All you have to
do with them is assume the id from the unique ninety seven one singing
jingle, unless you hit it lucky with a promo before the hour.
There
are loads of audio clips that have been used this season on line here,
that I have to include on the AUDIO CLIPS page. TIME TIME TIME.....
| KEN'S
DX DIARY AND LOGS - FRIDAY 14th JANUARY 2011 |
MONTAGE
OF STRONG SIGNALS FROM YESTERDAY:
As I
often do on these pages, if there are a lot of strong signals around,
I will make up a montage of some of the booming signals that come
in at various times. Here is yesterdays. A 3770k file, but there are
some great signals from the common stations.
Click
here for montage of 13th Jan 2011
I also
have a recording of KCKK on 6th. I think dx neighbour Paul C received
them like this at the top of the hour. As I have reported here many
times, we all seem to be on different fades, highlighted by the Perseus
and the miracles of the wideband recordings!!!
Click
to hear am 1510 KCKK
| KEN'S
DX DIARY AND LOGS - THURSDAY 13th JANUARY 2011 |
WDZY 1290 AND WZON 620:
I have
a log of Radio Disney at 2200 on 1290. Unfortunately the only ID is
Disney. The VA Col Heights station was due to go off at 2215, but
the signal was in the mud before that. At 0001 Friday I managed to
scrape the id for WZON IN Bangor, ME. This was on 620 under VOCM.
WARR
1520 - WARRENTON, NC:
There
were some big signals around at 22 and 2300 tonight. I never heard
anything too startling until a rare dx station put in a sneaky appearance
due to a little cock up from WWKB. At 2300 they were silent for about
1m 45s, and this unheard personal first came through. WARR, WARRENTON,
NC.
//
FM FREQUENCIES TO ASSIST WITH IDS:
There
are many of the regular MW stations now that ann a // FM frequency.
There are a lot that ann strange calls for HD services as well, which
can be confusing. But one may hear a partial ID, or catch an FM freq.
I am not going to claim to make an up to date list here, as such a
list would become outdated, or more likely I would make a start and
never finish it.
These
types of resources are something that radio clubs could strive for
as an on line resource, but I don't think there are any clubs here
in Europe that would have any desire to create such a list. So I have
at least made a start. This list would warrant a separate page if
there is any more than the current handful of entries!! Maybe I could
ideally start top add this on my all time list.
| 550 |
WSAU |
99.9 |
| 560 |
WSYR |
106.9 |
| 820 |
WBAP |
96.7 |
| 870 |
WWL |
105.3 |
| 960
|
KMA |
99.1 |
| 1110 |
WBT |
99.3 |
| 1270 |
WXYT |
97.1 |
| 1290 |
WHIO |
95.7 |
| 1290 |
WKBK |
104.1 |
| 1300 |
WOOD |
106.9 |
| 1440 |
WRED |
94.3
(WCYY call) |
| 1510 |
KCKK |
93.7 |
| 1660 |
KRZI |
106.9,
101.3, 100.9 |
WHAT
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE ADDED TO PERSEUS?
The imminent
release of PERSEUS VS 4.0 has made me think about banging on the same
old drum again. I have hoped and hoped that someday notice may be
taken of requests to "finish" the navigation on the Perseus
playback. It may not be possible of course, code wise. I personally
feel that the exclusive selling point of the SDR is the wideband recording
and playback facility. Bar for this, I would have had no interest
whatsoever in using a rx in conjunction with a PC. I would rather
have had the NRD or AOR. But the development of wideband recording
has been such a step forward for MW dxers, that the Perseus has already
left the traditional receivers far behind.
On the
Perseus group, no one seems to answer questions about updates anymore.
One poor fellow was met by contempt when asking if there were plans
for WFM on the Perseus GUI. Why is this?? Is the Perseus software
at the end of the line?? I have no idea. But I do know that a few
extra features would surely sell more receivers. Microtelecom (The
Perseus Company) have recently been trying to sell an add on frequency
correction plug in, to use along with frequency converters, in order
to give the correct freq read out. But this is despite the refusal
and rudeness in response to requests to add wfm. Sounds like wonderful
public relations to me. After all, there are many band 2 dxers out
there who may well benefit from a WFM addition to the Perseus GUI.
On the
other side of the coin though, many of the Perseus group contributors
have been making rude and obnoxious entries about the Perseus software,
and possibly that is the reason for the contempt within the group.
Many of the entries are more of less unsigned, anon, and I have also
noticed many comments from dxers that don't even use a Perseus!!
It was
noted that the Perseus software that is used in the AOR rx, can't
recall which model, was WFM capable. But on a downside, only able
to record 800kHz and not 1600kHz of spectrum.
In response,
"WINRAD +" by Sandro has come up with a WFM feature.
So if
I knew how to programme hard code, I would be looking to add the following:
1.Backwards
navigation. By this I mean ability to click back 20 seconds or so
to a previous file in a set of recorded files. The software can automatically
move on to the "next" file flawlessly, but moving back to
the "previous" file is a chore. To move back 20 seconds
to the start of an ID that may fall between files, means clicking
file, wav, browse, and finding the right wav, and navigating towards
the end of the file etc, all to go back 20 seconds. Luckily the terrible
howling noise is now gone that used to plague the Perseus user before
the latest BETA3/ 01 version.
(NB:
I don't mean the simple back 20 seconds on the same
recorded file that one dxer claimed recently as backwards navigation
on his SDR IQ..!!!!!!!!!!!
2. Create
a slider (like the NB and volume control etc) on the front GUI for
the "AM HI Pass filter", and have it change in real time,
ie without "applying". This makes another variable for digging
out that dx in the dirt.
3. WFM
with various settings that suit both EU and US as well as Eastern
European bands .Imagine being able to record 1.6 mhz at toth on OITR
band during a lift.
4. MORE
USEFUL MEMORY BANKS: I find I can navigate and tune faster using the
direct tuning than I can by using the memories. If the memory banks
were to be more useful, I would add the following. Clicking on the
memory banks would bring up a small window, perhaps with Memory Number,
Frequency etc and other details of stored data on the particular memory
channel. But more importantly, the ability to scroll through memory
banks in the same way that you scroll through the frequency counter
when changing frequency. eg mouse over memory bank number, changes
memory channel in the same way the frequency counter on the main screen
works. I mean that you can change in 10's or hundreds by the turn
of a mouse wheel. So say for example the memories for an AM dxer were
for ease, 53 - 170, all fine tuned in the mode best suited for the
dxers qth, and the appropriate sideband if necessary to avoid Euro
QRM etc. The turn of the mouse wheel would scroll fast through the
memory channels, as though tuning on the main screen.
mouse
over anywhere in memory sub window - mouse wheel jumps up or down
1 memory channel
mouse
wheel over the memory channel display - mouse wheel changes individual
digits, like freq counter does now.
(I am
not sure if I would use memories, with the 10kHz step or 9kHz step
on the mouse wheel making frequency change fast and furious anyway)
5. Extra
notch for multi hets
Achieve
this and the competition are left far behind.
| KEN'S
DX DIARY AND LOGS - TUESDAY 11th JANUARY 2011 |
ANOTHER
UPDATE:
In December
2011, AB in Yorkshire has contacted me re this station on 1230. I
believe now that it is WJOY, Burlington, VT and not WENY.
"I
just listened to your 1230 recording from January http://www.dxarchive.com/mw/audio/110111_2205_1230_weny_ny_weak.mp3
- I feel that the station here is WJOY Burlington VT not WENY Elmira
NY.
If
you listen carefully you will hear the call. Note that WENY 1230 is
// WENI 1450.
In
your clip I hear an ad / PSA for the “Caregiver Resource Centre
… is hosting a free discussion group for all unpaid caregivers
at the United Way Building, 45 Tom Miller Road in Plattsburgh from
11.30 am to 1 pm. If you’d like more information call 565 4543,
565 4543. Register for … website … visit “.
Unfortunately
I can’t get the web address which sounds like CTZ something.
Plattsburgh is just on the NY state side of the border a few miles
away from Burlington. There’s a clue here too: http://www.wjoy.com/COMMUNITYCALENDAR.HTML"
UPDATE:
At 2205
tonight I had a new personal first, on the edge of illegible, WENY
1230. .
A
LOOK AT THE LATEST DX LOGS:
There
have been a few quite good peaks over the last couple of weeks. WTVN
has been heard another twice here on 610. Maybe that's the band picking
up enough to be able to hear something other than WIOD since the closure
of the dominant French Canadian.
Last
night after setting the Perseus files, the PC must have rebooted itself.
Maybe a power dip, which sometimes happens here. The weather was a
little wild, and the lights had been dimming earlier. But anyway,
I was up to record 08 and 0900...
Below
are a few of the more interesting logs. NOTE: I don't scrawl down
daily logs of the regulars. I don't even put most in the log book,
as they can be heard every night almost. The stations I call regular
will be seen on my all time list. Some dxers may find it a useful
guide as to what's being heard, or if you can find a recent copy of
the complete UK list, even better.
570 Unid
SS along with Reloj. 0828 6/1
600 WMT 0833 6/1 snds more like WMQ
610 WTVN Columbus, OH 0900 11/1, 0834 10/1
650 WSM Nashville, TN Booming 0900 11/1/11
870 UNID 0900 6/1/11 ID poss in brief WWL Silence, Like WTNY
HD3??.
940 XEQ Exc ids 0900 9/1/11, and going into a speech and mention radio
something or other.
980 WOFX Troy NY 9/1 1000
1130 WBBR NY Absolutely pegging the meter 1000 9/1 (if there was 1
)
1130 WISN Milwaukee 0700 31/12 Noted in WBBR silence.
1200 WXKS 29/12 2200 This 50kW monster booms in sometimes
1290 KIVY Crokett, TX 0900 11/1
1290 WKBK Keene 1000 9/1
1290 WNBF Binghampton 1000 9/1
1300 WXRL, Lancaster, Buffalo 9/1 0900
1300 WOOD Regular. Often very good. Click here for an example in December
1350 unid espn stn with WOYK 0900 9/1
1430 WNSW Weak 0900 9/1
1450 UNID Like News Radio 14-50 WIMX or similar. Snds different
USB / LSB 1000 9/1
1460 WHIC The Stn of the Cross. quite good 0900 9/1
1470 UNID SS With K call. Poss KMNQ BROOKLYN PARK, MN with
// 1400 id KMNV
1490 KQDS, Duluth, MN The Fan 14-90 6/1/11
1510 KCKK Gd peak 0903 6/1/11
1520 KOKC Dominant 0800 10/11
1530 WCKY Gd 0900 9/11
1660 KRZI Gd 0400 10/1 inc many FM // ann
1680 WTTM quite gd 0900 9/1
TED
WILLIAMS UPDATE:
Whoever
is whining about copyright now, after initially uploading his original
file to youtube, has kicked up a stink about the replacement file
that someone uploaded. Why upload something if you then don't want
anyone to see it. Or have they sold out? That's more like it, and
whoever has the rights want's to coin money in off of poor old Ted's
back?? I can only hope Ted receives something for their greed.
| KEN'S
DX DIARY AND LOGS - SATURDAY 8th JANUARY 2011 |
LOGS:
I need
to catch up with the logs, especially from 6th when there was a good
0900 opening towards mid America. There are a couple of personal firsts
I think in there for January, so bear with me. I have been doing a
bit of walking and photographing the picturesque scenery we have here
in Scotland at this time.
An example
of last year's winter scenery
FOR
MORE OF THE ABOVE CLICK THIS LINK.
USE BACK BUTTON TO RETURN, AS THERE ARE NO BACKWARDS LINKS.
TED
WILLIAMS UPDATE:
UNBELIEVABLE
as it may seem, YOUTUBE have removed the original video of the man
with the golden voice. But thankfully, kind spirited folks have replaced
the original.
1.
ORIGINAL YOUTUBE MOVIE BANNED!!!
So try
this link, this is a replacement, and already had over 2 million hits!!!!
Well done whoever said "sod youtube and silly copyrights"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6kI_u3ho_c&feature=related
2.
TED ON TODAY SHOW
2.
TED ON CBS
| KEN'S
DX DIARY AND LOGS - WEDNESDAY 5th JANUARY 2011 |
TED
WILLIAMS:
Ted who??
A fellow that has touched the hearts of millions over the last couple
of days. Ted was wandering an intersection in Columbus Ohio with a
sign saying that he had a god given gift of a golden radio voice,
but was homeless and hopeful.
When
I wrote this text, there were over six million hits on the YOUTUBE
movie that discovered him.!!!
To see
what it's all about, see links below to:
1.
ORIGINAL YOUTUBE MOVIE
(Unbelievable
as it may seem, the original newspaper video has been removed due
to copyright reasons!! How stupid is that!!)
So try
this link, this is a replacement, and already had over 2 million hits!!!!
Well done whoever said "sod youtube and silly copyrights"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6kI_u3ho_c&feature=related
2.
TED ON TODAY SHOW
2.
TED ON CBS
PERSONAL
FIRST TODAY FROM COLUMBUS OHIO:
By sheer
coincidence, I had a personal first today from Columbus, Ohio, home
of Ted Williams!!!
At 0830,
AM 610 WTVN came through, but no sign of it at 0900.
| KEN'S
DX DIARY AND LOGS - TUESDAY 4th JANUARY 2011 |
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL FROM BONNIE SCOTLAND
SAQ
HEARD WELL IN SCOTLAND:
I forgot
to reset my Perseus auto hotkeys file to include the VLF broadcast
on 24th December, so thankfully I was by the receivers for the transmission
tonight at 0000, which was an extra transmission especially for North
America.
Click
below for a 794k recording of the VLF signal heard here in Scotland.
SAQ heard at 0000 on 3/4th January on a Perseus SDR and 500m beverage.
For the record, I was on top band telling some guys on 1933 about
the transmission. I couldn't believe that so called radio enthusiasts
had absolutely no interest in something just a little unusual. Gees!!
No wonder I don't do much with my ham call sign...... (MM0HSV)
A
FEW OTHER RECORDINGS FROM RECENT DAYS:
I have
a few other recordings to share here. A few rarer stations have made
it at the end of December, inc a couple of crafty calls given during
dominant station brief silence. I have yet to update the personal
firsts at the top of the December pages with these stations, but I
will have that job done soon.
The 1290
unid Classic Country is interesting. Only one listed as Classic Country
is WIRL, but it could be anything at this time of year I suppose,
relaying their FM sister stations for example because there is no
sport. KOKC is a really good ID in a WWKB silence. As is personal
first WISN Milwaukee on 1130.
101231_0700_1130_wbbr_wisn_in_gap
(pers 1st).mp3
101229_2200_1200_wxks_newton_boston.mp3
101231_0800_1290_unid_classic_country_mix_cjbk.mp3
101231_0800_1330_wspq_springville_ny
(pers 1st).mp3
101231_0800_1360_wmny_pa
(very weak, pers 1st) .mp3
101231_0700_1410_wqun_hamden_ct_via_wpop.mp3
101226_0900_1440_wmax_bay_city_mi
(pers 1st).mp3
101227_0300_1520_kokc_vg.mp3
LOCAL
RIVER ICE DAM:
There
are some photos of the local river where my antennas run across, with
a massive ice dam. This lot was taken on 30th December. Have a look
for yourself at the amazing scenes, that even made national press.
There is no link back here, so use the back button.
http://www.ayrshirehistory.com/ayr_river_ayr_ice_december_2010.html
